FCP: Tapeless Offline / Online Workflow
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  | Shane Ross Los Angeles California USA
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Article Focus: In this video tutorial, Creative COW leader Shane Ross details how to manage offline and online workflow with tapeless format. |
Comments | | | | Shane one more question. My project was shot with the 5d. I have multiple folders of footage because I had to separate them because some of the raw file names from the 5d were duplicates. So I separated them so they wouldn't overwrite each other. What do I do in this situation? Do all the files need to be in the same folder?
Thanks for the input.
Mike Boylan | | | | |
| | | |  | Re: FCP: Tapeless Offline / Online Workflow by Shane Ross 1774478 |
You first recapture as high res, then color correct. Because Color looks at the files you send it, and renders out finals from those.
Shane
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| | | | Shane one more question. My project was shot with the 5d. I have multiple folders of footage because I had to separate them because some of the raw file names from the 5d were duplicates. So I separated them so they wouldn't overwrite each other. What do I do in this situation? Do all the files need to be in the same folder?
Thanks for the input.
Mike Boylan | | | | |
| | | | Hi I have a question about using this process of using pro res 422 proxy and then getting picture lock and then re compressing to say pro res 422HQ. When would you send to apple color? Before you convert to HQ or while you are in Pro res proxy?
Any info greatly appreciated.
Mike | | | | |
| | | |  | Re: FCP: Tapeless Offline / Online Workflow by Shane Nye 9973561 |
I am working on a project that is being shot in multiple tapeless formats. In order to conserve space-est 600 hours of footage-I am hoping to use an offline workflow with Pro Res Proxy. In this case, I can't buy more drives because the footage will reside on rented space from a shared media server.
1) Will an offline workflow be the best approach if almost half the footage is either XDCAM EX or DVCPRO HD (which are not transcoded but rewrapped in a OT codec) while over half will be Pro Res HQ transcoded to Pro Res Proxy for editing?
2) Would it be wiser to convert all the XDCAM and DVCPRO HD to in order to offline edit in one format - Pro Res Proxy? If so is Proxy Mill a good way to do this?
Thanks,
Shane
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| | | |  | Re: FCP: Tapeless Offline / Online Workflow by frank Raposo 25963937 |
Shane,
Do you have a tutorial similar to this for Avid?
quinnmcguee | | | | |
| | | |  | Re: FCP: Tapeless Offline / Online Workflow by John Livings 45274722 |
Another great tutorial,
John | | | | |
| | | | Excellent tutorial! It help me alot understanding how to do offline/online in fcp... as I was struggleling how to do it the right way.
I've notice that the FCP Tapeless Offline / Online Workflow is not accessible as a podcast as of august 28 2010... I've notice that in itune, there are 2 time the same podcast witch is "FCP: Export Multiple Channels of Audio" I think that one of them should have been the "FCP Tapeless offline/online workflow" hope that get fix soon, because I like having creativecow tutorial as podcast on my system.
Thanks alot for the info sharing!
Martin B. | | | | |
| | | |  | Re: FCP Tapeless Offline / Online Workflow by Phil Balsdon 45820389 |
Another excellent tutorial Shane, especially for those with limited storage capacity that still need or want to output high quality.
Cinematographer, Steadicam Operator, Final Cut Pro Post Production.
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| | | | A big thank you Shane. Have just been thinking about this very thing. Just need to convert your tutorial to EX1 work flow. | | | | |
| | | |  | Re: FCP Tapeless Offline / Online Workflow by Shane Ross 45790416 |
Ah...the XDCAM EX. That format presents a problem. You can only import that with the Sony XDCAM transfer utility...and only convert it to QT in the native codec. A lot of people then convert to ProRes for editing, or just edit natively. Not sure how to really deal with this format in an offline/online way. The interesting thing is that there was a LOG AND TRANSFER plugin that worked with FCP 6...so that you could access the footage in FCP 6 via L&T. But it doesn't work in FCP 7...that changed. Now there is the Sony XDCAM Transfer software...separate app. And that only works outside of FCP.
I wonder why Apple changed that?
Shane
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| | | | The data rate of XDCam EX is already very low. There is not point in an offline/ online workflow as the data rate is only 30% greater than DV or HDV so there is nothing to be gained by reducing XDCam. | | | | |
| | | |  | Re: FCP Tapeless Offline / Online Workflow by John Fishback 45911295 |
Right to the point. This is excellent. Thanks.
John
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FCS 3 (FCP 7.0.2, Motion 4.0.2, Comp 3.5.2, DVDSP 4.2.2, Color 1.5.2)
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| | | | Yes, excellent Shane. A tutorial on how to backup various card types to maintain the correct file structures for L&T would be an excellent adjunct to this tutorial. | | | | |
| | | |  | Re: FCP Tapeless Offline / Online Workflow by Mark Raudonis 45895798 |
XDCAM. Can't say "tapeless" without it.
mark
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| | | |  | Re: FCP Tapeless Offline / Online Workflow by Shane Ross 45894997 |
Now...I have XDCAM EX...and I know that you can't use L&T for that. But the main XDCAM...the disks...do you use Log and Transfer for that? That is the one tapeless format I don't have. But knowing that it is done the same way would be good, as I'll choose another format to use as the main example.
Shane
GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD...don't miss it.
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| | | |  | Re: FCP Tapeless Offline / Online Workflow by Wayne Carey 45759267 |
[Shane Ross] "Now...I have XDCAM EX...and I know that you can't use L&T for that. But the main XDCAM...the disks...do you use Log and Transfer for that?"
Personally, I haven't used the EX format, but I think you are supposed to use L&T with it. But for the disc... I do know that one very well. You have to use Sony's XDCAM Transfer software for that and you can use it to import straight to HDs without FCP running or use it inside of FCP to import straight to a Bin.
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