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In this video tutorial, Creative COW leader Shane Ross details how to manage offline and online workflow with tapeless format.



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@Shane Ross
by Michael Boylan
Shane one more question. My project was shot with the 5d. I have multiple folders of footage because I had to separate them because some of the raw file names from the 5d were duplicates. So I separated them so they wouldn't overwrite each other. What do I do in this situation? Do all the files need to be in the same folder?

Thanks for the input.

Mike Boylan
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Re: FCP: Tapeless Offline / Online Workflow
by Shane Ross
You first recapture as high res, then color correct. Because Color looks at the files you send it, and renders out finals from those.

Shane
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@Shane Ross
by Michael Boylan
Shane one more question. My project was shot with the 5d. I have multiple folders of footage because I had to separate them because some of the raw file names from the 5d were duplicates. So I separated them so they wouldn't overwrite each other. What do I do in this situation? Do all the files need to be in the same folder?

Thanks for the input.

Mike Boylan
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@FCP: Tapeless Offline / Online Workflow
by Michael Boylan
Hi I have a question about using this process of using pro res 422 proxy and then getting picture lock and then re compressing to say pro res 422HQ. When would you send to apple color? Before you convert to HQ or while you are in Pro res proxy?

Any info greatly appreciated.

Mike
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Re: FCP: Tapeless Offline / Online Workflow
by Shane Nye
I am working on a project that is being shot in multiple tapeless formats. In order to conserve space-est 600 hours of footage-I am hoping to use an offline workflow with Pro Res Proxy. In this case, I can't buy more drives because the footage will reside on rented space from a shared media server.

1) Will an offline workflow be the best approach if almost half the footage is either XDCAM EX or DVCPRO HD (which are not transcoded but rewrapped in a OT codec) while over half will be Pro Res HQ transcoded to Pro Res Proxy for editing?

2) Would it be wiser to convert all the XDCAM and DVCPRO HD to in order to offline edit in one format - Pro Res Proxy? If so is Proxy Mill a good way to do this?

Thanks,
Shane

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Re: FCP: Tapeless Offline / Online Workflow
by frank Raposo
Shane,

Do you have a tutorial similar to this for Avid?

quinnmcguee
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Re: FCP: Tapeless Offline / Online Workflow
by John Livings
Another great tutorial,

John
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Re: FCP Tapeless Offline / Online Workflow
by Martin Brazeau
Excellent tutorial! It help me alot understanding how to do offline/online in fcp... as I was struggleling how to do it the right way.

I've notice that the FCP Tapeless Offline / Online Workflow is not accessible as a podcast as of august 28 2010... I've notice that in itune, there are 2 time the same podcast witch is "FCP: Export Multiple Channels of Audio" I think that one of them should have been the "FCP Tapeless offline/online workflow" hope that get fix soon, because I like having creativecow tutorial as podcast on my system.

Thanks alot for the info sharing!

Martin B.
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Re: FCP Tapeless Offline / Online Workflow
by Phil Balsdon
Another excellent tutorial Shane, especially for those with limited storage capacity that still need or want to output high quality.

Cinematographer, Steadicam Operator, Final Cut Pro Post Production.
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Re: FCP Tapeless Offline / Online Workflow
by Bruce Rawlings
A big thank you Shane. Have just been thinking about this very thing. Just need to convert your tutorial to EX1 work flow.
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Re: FCP Tapeless Offline / Online Workflow
by Shane Ross
Ah...the XDCAM EX. That format presents a problem. You can only import that with the Sony XDCAM transfer utility...and only convert it to QT in the native codec. A lot of people then convert to ProRes for editing, or just edit natively. Not sure how to really deal with this format in an offline/online way. The interesting thing is that there was a LOG AND TRANSFER plugin that worked with FCP 6...so that you could access the footage in FCP 6 via L&T. But it doesn't work in FCP 7...that changed. Now there is the Sony XDCAM Transfer software...separate app. And that only works outside of FCP.

I wonder why Apple changed that?

Shane



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Re: FCP Tapeless Offline / Online Workflow
by Michael Gissing
The data rate of XDCam EX is already very low. There is not point in an offline/ online workflow as the data rate is only 30% greater than DV or HDV so there is nothing to be gained by reducing XDCam.
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Re: FCP Tapeless Offline / Online Workflow
by Niklas Lagstrom
Awesome guide. Thanks!
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Re: FCP Tapeless Offline / Online Workflow
by John Fishback
Right to the point. This is excellent. Thanks.

John

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Re: FCP Tapeless Offline / Online Workflow
by Michael Gissing
Yes, excellent Shane. A tutorial on how to backup various card types to maintain the correct file structures for L&T would be an excellent adjunct to this tutorial.
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Re: FCP Tapeless Offline / Online Workflow
by Shane Ross
Thanks guys. And yes, the general tapeless workflow is next. just gathering resources. I have one for P2, but know that I need to cover all the bases.

Shane



GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD...don't miss it.
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Re: FCP Tapeless Offline / Online Workflow
by Mark Raudonis
XDCAM. Can't say "tapeless" without it.

mark

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Re: FCP Tapeless Offline / Online Workflow
by Shane Ross
Now...I have XDCAM EX...and I know that you can't use L&T for that. But the main XDCAM...the disks...do you use Log and Transfer for that? That is the one tapeless format I don't have. But knowing that it is done the same way would be good, as I'll choose another format to use as the main example.

Shane



GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD...don't miss it.
Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def
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Re: FCP Tapeless Offline / Online Workflow
by Wayne Carey
[Shane Ross] "Now...I have XDCAM EX...and I know that you can't use L&T for that. But the main XDCAM...the disks...do you use Log and Transfer for that?"

Personally, I haven't used the EX format, but I think you are supposed to use L&T with it. But for the disc... I do know that one very well. You have to use Sony's XDCAM Transfer software for that and you can use it to import straight to HDs without FCP running or use it inside of FCP to import straight to a Bin.

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Wayne Carey
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